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October 4, 2007

Pentagon no-757 theories: debunkings from within the 9/11 Truth movement

Filed under: 9/11,9/11 Truth,Jim Hoffman,no-planes theories,Pentagon — Diane @ 1:42 pm

The claim that American Airlines Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon has been widely promoted, e.g. in the video Loose Change, but has been hotly disputed within the 9/11 Truth movement. The larger of the two scholars’ groups, headed by Steven Jones, rejects it. Below is a collection of links to writings by people in the 9/11 Truth movement who oppose the Pentagon no-757 theories.

First, on Jim Hoffman’s websites:

Though he disputes the no-757 theories, Jim Hoffman does believe that the Pentagon attack was an inside job. (See his collections of writings about the Pentagon on 0-11 Review and on 9-11 Research On the latter site, see also his list of 9-11 Anomalies.)

Jim Hoffman asks:

Why did authorities seize and suppress evidence that could show exactly what happened? The answer that occurs to most skeptics is that the government is trying to hide that the crash involved an entirely different kind of aircraft than a Boeing 757. However, the overwhelming support among eyewitness reports for the idea that a twin-engine jetliner crashed into the Pentagon suggests a different answer: perhaps the perpetrators suppressed the evidence to feed the no-Boeing theory in order to divide and discredit the skeptics.

More generally, Jim Hoffman has theorized:

Disinformation aimed at skeptics of the official story is more subtle than the simple promotion of that story to the masses. It may consist of ideas with no basis in evidence packaged as shocking new findings that supposedly prove the involvement of insiders. Its effect is to discredit the larger body of 9/11 research through guilt by association with its sensational and unscientific approach. An example is the idea that Twin Towers were not hit by Flights 11 or 175 but rather by completely different objects, such as military planes with missile-firing pods.

Below are writings by other people in the 9/11 Truth movement disputing the Pentagon no-757 theories:

I personally have not yet studied the Pentagon crash in depth. (I’ve given higher priority to studying what happened to the World Trade Center.) However, because the no-757 idea is so hotly disputed, especially by some of the 9/11 Truth movement’s most thorough researchers, I think it best that any introductory 9/11 Truth literature and videos steer clear of this claim and focus instead on stronger evidence against the official story.

Furthermore, although I wouldn’t be as quick as some people are to conclude that particular theories are deliberate disinfo, I do think we need to be extra cautious about promoting any idea that contradicts large bodies of eye-witness testimony. The Pentagon crash was seen by thousands of people stuck in traffic on nearby highways. If a lot of these people specifically remember seeing a large passenger jet, and if one of the main things they’ve heard about the 9/11 Truth movement is the notion that the Pentagon was hit by something other than a jetliner, then obviously we’re going to look like a bunch of loonies to all these thousands of people and their friends, thereby discrediting the 9/11 Truth movement to many people in and around Washington, D.C.


  1. […] a 757. However, by no means does everyone in the 9/11 Truth movement endorse the latter claim. (See Pentagon no-757 theories: debunkings from within the 9/11 Truth movement.) Berlet falsely claims that such flimsy arguments are characteristic of the entire 9/11 Truth […]

    Pingback by Chip Berlet and “Conspiracism” « New York City activist — October 14, 2007 @ 1:31 am | Reply

  2. The Pentagon Honey Pot (on Arabesque’s blog)

    A collection of quotes by respected 9/11 researchers who believe that the Pentagon was struck by a 757, but who also question why the Pentagon was hit.

    (Comment by Arabesque, edited by blog author Diane to HTML-ize and prettify link.)

    Comment by arabesque911 — October 15, 2007 @ 12:34 am | Reply

  3. (This comment is an edited pingback.)

    Above, I’m deleting a bunch of comments dealing with WTC no-planes theories. Copies of the deleted comments have been posted to the thread linked at the bottom of this comment.

    Please note that all comments on the topic of no-planes theories should be confined to comment threads beneath posts in the no-planes theories category.

    – Diane

    Pingback by No-planes theories (transplanted comment thread) « New York City activist — March 6, 2008 @ 4:43 pm | Reply

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